Choosing Yourself Will Feel Selfish (Until It Sets You Free)

Have you ever felt guilty for wanting more?

More peace.
More freedom.
More alignment.
More of a life that actually feels like yours.

In this deeply personal episode of Relentlessly Authentic, Rachael and Gaby open up about the emotional weight of choosing yourself—and why becoming who you're meant to be often comes with guilt, grief, and difficult conversations.

Rachael vulnerably shares her recent struggles with anxiety, the physical symptoms of chronic stress, and how old stories of guilt and responsibility still show up in her life today. Gaby reflects on navigating a major move, shifting family dynamics, and what it means to trust yourself when life asks you to let go of what's familiar.

Together, they explore the invisible emotional labor so many women carry:
the pressure to keep everyone happy, the fear of disappointing the people we love, and the quiet belief that choosing ourselves somehow makes us selfish.

In this conversation, we dive into:

• anxiety, stress, and the body's response to change

• breaking generational patterns without carrying generational guilt

• motherhood, sacrifice, and allowing the people you love to grow

• processing emotions instead of suppressing them

• why failure is often the doorway to your greatest transformation

• trusting yourself when other people don't understand your decisions

• releasing control and embracing personal freedom

• standing firm in your truth—even when it's uncomfortable

Because healing isn't just learning to love yourself.

Sometimes it's learning to stop abandoning yourself for everyone else.

If you've been navigating a season of change, questioning your decisions, or carrying guilt for choosing the life that's calling you, this episode is your reminder that your growth isn't something you have to apologize for.

The people who are meant to walk with you will grow alongside you.

And the version of you waiting on the other side of this season?

She's worth disappointing everyone else for… if it means you finally stop disappointing yourself.

Find Rachael on Instagram @highvibeyogii

Find Gaby on Instagram @rising.monarca and @gabrielafverdusco on Tik Tok 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Good morning. Welcome back to Relentlessly Authentic. We're happy to be here. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Ray. Grand Rising. Grand Rising. Gab, where are you? Are you at like a coffee place? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Cool. Yep. All right, Gab. No. No. Okay. That's why I'm like, it's quite quiet for being at a coffee place. Still early. So that probably helps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. I was not feeling well this school this morning, Gab. And like I was working as well and taking client calls. And now once I see your bright face, I'm like, oh yeah, I do want to be here. I love being here with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Likewise. I actually was really looking forward to it. I also have not been feeling well. Just I've been having a lot of anxiety. It's funny, yesterday I went to bed and I was laying down and I kept getting dizzy. Like I would close my eyes and it'd be fine. But the minute I would open my eyes, it felt like I was kind of spinning.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

And I don't know what that was due to. But I know things have emotionally and mentally at home have just been very chaotic. I've had a lot of anxiety, so which has caused a lot of nausea throughout the week. I'm not very hungry. I've had a few people tell me, gosh, you've lost more weight. And I don't feel like I have, but it's very possible if I just haven't been eating normally the way I usually eat. But yeah, you know, it's just been a very off week.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Yeah. I definitely feel that. I definitely okay, Gab. So I know we started kind of talking before the podcast, and you dive into this as to what you feel comfortable, right? But with the move, is that why things are getting harder at home or why it's been a bit ink in prison?

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yeah, I think there's a lot of uncertainty, of course, and on my part, which I'm fine with. I've spoken about there's some just going with the flow. But when it comes to the kids, I think there's a lot of uncertainty. And it's hard, I think, to get up from a place that you feel is your home, right? Or that you feel safe and secure to go to somewhere new and start a whole new life, especially at the age of Valentina's age, which is 18 years old. I think it's there's a lot of things there. There's a lot of factors, right? There's the environment, there's his friends. I think there's been a little bit of his dad talking to him, you know. There's been a lot of influences, right, that have influenced him to kind of backtrack and be like, oh, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. I don't know if I want to go to Southern California anymore. I might just want to stay here. And I think he his perception was that if he says that, then I'm gonna be like, oh, then I'm not gonna go. But like I told him was that like I already committed myself to a job and I'm already signed a contract, and I can't just be like, oh, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna do it anymore. You know, I'm I'm I change just kidding. Um I changed my mind.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Yeah, yeah. Especially after all of your the past year of trying to find work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

And I think that he doesn't understand that, you know, he doesn't understand a kid, so and like I said, there's people in his ear, you know, he keeps telling me the way that I'm doing things is not okay. So I know he's definitely being influenced. Last weekend my dad was here for Father's Day, and he sat all of us down and we talked because there was a big blow-up with my older son and his dad that morning of Father's Day. I wasn't there, but my dad was there, and he said that Junior just went off on his dad. Very disrespectful, with like, oh, you know, fuck you, motherfucker. Like just went off. But I also know I couldn't believe it. I've never seen my son do that. But at the same time, I also know that my son, my oldest son, carries so much resentment for his dad. So much resentment. And maybe even some for me, too, you know? And he's not the type to talk about things. So he just kind of bottles things up. And I really think what happened was that there was an altered case that day and he just exploded. Right. He just exploded. He also has a lot of stress on him because now I'm leaving. So now he feels like he has to find a place on his own to move out to because he doesn't want to live at home with his dad. So, you know, I feel like life's changing for everyone. Yeah, it's it's a big change for everyone. And unfortunately, I feel like a lot of the blame gets put on me. Like you're leaving, so that's why this is happening. You're leaving, so now this is falling apart. Yeah. I'm causing this. And it's unstable right now. Yeah. And that has been extremely hard to deal with. You know, there's especially now that Valentina has decided to stay, there's a big part of me that like that the guilt and the shame comes up, you know, because like my younger daughter has told me a couple of times, you're abandoning me. And I know that I'm not abandoning her. I know that I I told I begged her to come with me and she's choosing not to. But because of what others are saying, that's how she's perceiving it. And I'm having such a hard time with that. Because of my past, you know, and you know, my dad's like, maybe you should just stay for a couple years, move in with and just stay and go live with their dad, because he supposedly said he would financially support me even if we're not together, just to co-parent for a couple of years if I want to go back to school. So he told my dad that. So my dad's like, you should take that opportunity. And I was like, You need you guys all need to stop.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

I'm not changing my mind. I'm so rooted in what my body, my intuition, my everything was telling me to do that I'm really going against the grain. I'm going against everything, you know, and everybody's seeing that as getting up and abandoning my kids, which has probably been the most difficult thing in all of this, you know?

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Because I know, Rachel, that I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

I know that I've devoted myself to my kids my entire life. I've sacrificed so many different things that I'd wanted to do to be their mom when they were young. And now that they're older, it's not fair for people to turn around and say you're abandoning your family. You know, you're abandoning your kids because they're choosing to go off on their own. They're choosing to take go on their journey. As they should be. I feel like it's like a slap in the face to me. Because I'm as moms, I think we sacrifice everything. Our entire youth. For me, it was my 20s, my 30s. I devoted myself to them and made sacrifices where I needed to make sacrifice. I never went out. I never did anything. Like I was always with my kids when they were young. And now that I am older, I just don't feel like it's appreciated. I feel like it's still like you still have to sacrifice everything. You still have to do that because you're still our mom and I'm gonna be their mom for their whole life. But now I'm just like, no, I actually don't because you are over 18 years old and you don't ask permission to go out. You don't ask permission to smoke weed. You don't ask permission to drink, you don't ask permission to party, you don't ask permission to, you know, go off and buy all this crazy shit that you shouldn't be buying. You guys don't ask permission. So when it's convenient to you, I'm your mom. When it's not convenient to you, you're an adult and you can make your own decision. Yeah, of course. And learning to detach myself from that and being able to see that has been monumental in my life because I'm able to be like, no, this is not fair. You know, this is not fair. I told myself when I turned 45 that I was gonna choose me, and this is what choosing me looks like, you know, this is what choosing me looks like. And if the rest of the fucking world wants to see it as me abandoning my kids, that is their fucking problem. Because I am not abandoning my kids, you know. I am still here, but I'm no longer, what I won't do is I will no longer abandon myself or anyone else. And that's what this looks like. But it's been really, really hard emotionally, because there are those feelings of, like I've said before, I lived in a place of fear, guilt, and shame for so long because of my incarceration, because of me not being home for so long with them, that I did promise them and myself that I would never leave them again. And that's what this feels like at the same time. It does feel like I'm leaving them again.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

And I feel like it's for those emotions to kind of come back to the surface, right? It's kind of like you're reopening that wound. And we've talked, I think, on here about that before of like your body remembers, right? Like all of that shame, that guilt, that fear. And it's gonna resurface because it's almost like you're going back into that survival bit of mode, right? Of this is how I felt then. This was the circumstances. I put all of that onto myself. And now, you know, you're making choices for yourself. And I think maybe Gabs, you correct me if I'm wrong. I think sometimes in our subconscious, we fear that this is gonna be the response. And then it happens, right? And then it's what how am I gonna choose to show up? Right. Am I gonna choose to believe this story even though I know it's not true, but everybody is saying it? Because it's almost like it's the easy scapegoat to make everyone else feel like they don't have to take any responsibility like for their life or their choices, you know, that we all need to go on to the next chapter of life, right? That it's not necessarily your fault, Gabs. It's that this is the next chapter, that we all need to take the next chapter, but you're the one who's pushing it, right? You're the one who's making that chapter happen now, but maybe before everyone's kind of comfortable with it. But I do think, Gab, that it's from the outside looking in, right? I have met your family one time, but it's been, this has been a like a work in progress for a long time, right? That that changes were happening, that changes were coming.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Well, and I've been saying I'm gonna move for a long time. I think they just nobody really believed it was gonna happen because of who I am. I've always devoted myself to my kids, you know, to my family. And so nobody really saw it. Like I can't tell you how many people have said behind my back, she's been saying she's gonna leave for a long time, she's not gonna go nowhere. She's been saying she's gonna go for a long time, she's not gonna go nowhere, you know? And I don't respond. I'm just like, you know, whatever, you know. I know that I'm leaving. I know that, like I'm I can't even believe that like I'm pushing so hard for this, you know, that there's moments in myself that that I question it, you know. I'm like, of course, why are you pushing so hard? You know, why like your dad's telling you, you know, even my dad, like I said, was telling me, don't do this, like just wait a little bit, you know, and like everybody wants me to play it safe, you know, and I'm just done playing it safe.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Because that makes everyone else more comfortable. Not that it's necessarily good for you, but it makes everyone else more comfortable, which makes you more palatable, right? I mean, it's like you tone it down a little bit, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:38

You know what actually solidified my decision was that he said, so that day that we sat and talked, all my kids just kind of exploded. Like they all, I really got to get like a zoom out and pay attention. They were so disrespectful. Like they were just cursing at each other, cursing in front of my dad, cursing at their dad. They don't talk to me like that. But their dad did join the conversation, and they were just really disrespectful to their dad. Like they have no respect for him. They were just talking all kinds of shit to him. And my dad had to tell them, like, hey, shut up. What you guys are doing are is not okay. And they feel like, oh, well, he disrespects. It's very true what my dad said. Because my dad, their dad was like, Do you see how they're talking to me? And my dad did tell him, Where do you think they got it from? They were not born like this. Do they talk to her like that? No, you talk to them like that their entire life. And this is why this is the response that you're getting. Because you've made it okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

They're marrying you.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Show them res right. If you show them respect, they're gonna show you respect. And my dad did tell us, both of us, like when we were talking, like he told us, like, you guys ruined these kids. You guys ruined these kids because you guys could not get a grip on your marriage early on. You guys did not work your shit out early on behind closed doors. Right. You know, these kids, like you guys have traumatized them, and this is the result of all of this. And that was a really hard pill to swallow. You know, I sat there and I cried my eyes out because I was like, he's kind of right. Like, I have to take accountability, you know. He's kind of right. Like, and it's interesting how everybody, all the kids react different, right? Like my youngest doesn't say a word. She just sat there and she kept trying to put her headphones on, you know, disassociate herself. And I was able to notice everybody's behavior, how different it was. She didn't state, right? What is their survival?

SPEAKER_02 13:35

And that's in that exactly when chaos occurs, I feel like you see in real time everyone's survival response of not feeling safe, right? So when we don't feel safe, what do we do? Do we fight? Do we flight? Right? Do we run away? Do we fawn and just try to make everything okay? Yeah, yeah, or just freeze, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Disassociate. Yeah. So it was interesting to see that. And I was really able to, when he said that, I took a look around and I was like, wow, we really did mess up our kids really bad just because we didn't know how to communicate. We didn't know how to treat each other. We lost respect for each other so early on in our relationships. And this is exactly why we the relationship never worked. You know, this is why everything ended. Because even that day, I was trying to say something and he would talk over me. Or he just like he kept saying, Well, she's abandoning her family, she's abandoning her kids, she's abandoning. And my dad kept telling him, like, stop saying that. That right there is passing judgment. You are saying that out loud in front of your kids. So guess what? Your kids are listening. Your kids are listening to that. She is abandoning her kids. And that is not what's going on. My dad kept telling him, you know, and he kept saying it. And I was just like, Yeah, this is exactly why this, this, none of this worked, you know, because of this. And and so sitting there and observing all of this and seeing the kids, and I was like, this is exactly why I need to do this. This is exactly why I need to do this. I need to leave. Yeah, galaxy. I need to leave because they have to, they have to know what it's like to live without me, right? They're gonna see, they're gonna notice my absence, Rach, because I do everything for them, right? I've done everything for them their entire life. Anytime they're in a bind, anytime there's nothing to eat, oh mommy, how do I make this? Mommy, how do I do this? How do I do that? Can you help me? Can you pick me up? Can you drop me up? Can you, can you look into this? Can you help me with that? I'm not gonna be here anymore. So then that's when they're gonna notice my absence, and that's when they're gonna see. Maybe that's when they're gonna value me and appreciate everything I've done, you know, because their father is not gonna do any of that. He doesn't even know how to make an appointment to go see a therapist himself. He was asking me for help. Yeah, you know, so it's like there, it's my absence is really gonna be felt.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Well, and that's why they're that's why you're getting the response that you're getting, is because it's fear, right? That's why I'm being told I'm selfish over and over. Because you're the one who's now gonna shine the light on the fact of all of the issues that are no longer gonna be able to be swept under the rug, right? Because now we have to come face to face with them. And that's looking uncomfortable. And nobody wants to do it. And you're forcing that uncomfortability, and that makes you the bad guy. And the tower has to crumble, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Correct. The tower has to crumble. That's just the way it is, and so that's why I think that's exactly what needs everything needs to just fall apart in order for them to become independent, take accountability, become responsible, and on top of it, be able to learn to respect and appreciate me and their dad for whoever we are and whatever we do. You know, we've done the best with what we knew how to do, you know, at the time. Am I better now? Yes, I'm much better now. I know better, I do better, I speak better to them, right? And also, like, they don't realize the gift. Like Valeria doesn't realize the gift that I'm giving her by allowing her to stay behind. Like that is a I'm allowing her to make that decision for herself, right? You're not forcing her because I should very well could force her, because that's what my dad and mom would have done. They would have forced me. They would have said, You're 14 years old, you're coming with me whether you like it or not. Right. You know, and I'm not doing that because I still want to maintain a good relationship with my daughter. I don't want her to see me as an enemy or as something somebody that's that's pressuring her to do things. Yeah, I want her to see some, I want her to see. And I know she's not gonna see that right now. She's not. But in when she's older, she's gonna see that I she had the will and she had autonomy over herself at a very young age. And I did tell her, like, whatever choices you make from here, from the point I'm gone out, you're gonna have to deal with the consequences because I am not gonna be here anymore, you know? And it's gonna be hard because I told her, I'm not gonna give you money, I'm not gonna door dash anything, I'm not gonna, you're gonna have to solely depend on your father. And I'm like, that's how you're gonna know what it's gonna be like to like completely live with him versus living with me. I said, because you living with me, you have everything you want. You know, you have an iPad, you have a MacBook, you have an iPhone, you're 14 years old. I didn't have any of that at that age.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Wow, Gabs. I didn't know at that age.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yeah, I I got that when I went to college, right? I got those things when I went to college. All my other kids got it when they went to college. Yeah, you know, but she got it at a younger age because she was doing good in school. She was on a stuff at the beginning of the year and stuff. So so I was like, okay, she's doing good, you know. But her everything has declined. Her grades have declined. I mean, all of this has really, really uh everyone. Yeah. And like I said, it's a hard pill to swallow because everybody's like, it's your fault. How dare you? How dare you do this?

SPEAKER_02 18:56

And that's a lot to hold Gab, right? And I I can feel your emotion, and that makes me like teary, right? And because I love and care about you, and I've been on the journey with you throughout, you know, some of this, right? And to see where you are now and to know that this is kind of what you're going through. And um, similarly, I feel like I've had these big blowouts with my family and on my journey as well. And I know how devastating it is, how emotionally draining it is, how you think it's all of your fault. And to hold and bear all of that on top of knowing that in your heart and your soul, you're doing what you need to be doing. And so it's very hard to relay that, I think, to our loved ones in the moment because they're having their own internal issues, experience based on your decisions. But that doesn't mean that the decision is wrong, right? It's and this is a sidebar, and I just want to get back to your story. I similarly, though, when I was kind of going through my, I don't know, up levels, dark nights of the soul, like growth, there was a lot of pressure on me and my husband to get married. And I knew that our relationship as it was not ready for marriage. And I, there was a lot of pressure. There was a lot of you should do this, why aren't you doing this? A lot of discussion about it. I couldn't really communicate because I was dysregulated. So it was really hard for me to convey why I felt the way that I felt. And a lot of that just got pushed and I took a lot of the blame for that, meaning like, oh, I'm the person who's because it wasn't my problem. Correct. I was the problem because my husband was like, let's get fucking married, and bought a ring many years prior. And I was the problem. And I took a lot of that guilt on. I took a lot of that shame on. I took that on to myself, which only makes it the situation harder, right? My mom said to me about a week ago, she looked at me, this is gonna make me cry. She's like, You are right to wait. And at the time, Gab, that was not the story that was being told. And why I'm saying this to you is that even though right now the story is being told that you're abandoning them, that won't be the story forever. And the story and the truth of what this holds on the other side won't be that story. But I know it's really hard right now. And I know making these decisions are really hard right now. And I can't imagine. I know how much your family and you love them and you're trying to do what's best for them. And I can see it in everything that you do, but it that won't be the story forever. And so keep loving them, keep doing the best that you can, and they will see it differently. It's just gonna take some time and it might not be in a year, it might not be in two years. The mushroom cloud, right? Like of the bomb that's being set off right now, yeah, that will start to dissipate. But the the validation or the story changing that might take a few years, but it will. It will. So please, you know, knowing from my heart to yours that I know you're in a tough spot. And I know this is excruciatingly painful and emotional, and it's understandable you're having anxiety, right? Like normalizing body responses to a very tense time. Right. And so I'm glad we have the podcast. I'm glad we can hold the space because I know this is excruciatingly painful for you. And I know how tense and how hard those conversations are. And so I'm proud of you. I hope you're proud of yourself. I know it's not easy, but all of the work that you've done, right, is like coming to this moment. And you know, maybe the version of you in the past would have been like, okay, I'll stay. But this moment, you're changed.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

I mean, that's just so many times that what was it, five, six years ago that I left or like I separated from their dad for I didn't leave the house, but I separated from him. I didn't want anything to do with him, you know. And I just didn't have the guts to leave. You know, I didn't have the guts to leave because again, everybody kept telling me, like, you need to stay there for your kids. Your kids are still young, you know. Which they were. They were younger. They were not young. They were younger. And they solely still depended on me. So they were like, you can't. I mean, that's just the programming, right? Especially in my culture, is like, you know, you need to fix your marriage. Like, it's crazy to hear people talk right and how they rationalize things and how they say, like, men, this is what's been told to me. You know, even my mom would tell me, you know, when their dad, like a long, long time ago, right, cheated on me, right? Several times. And I remember, I don't even think we were married yet. We were, I think we maybe we were engaged. Maybe we were not married. I don't know. It was a long time ago. It was definitely like in my my early twenties. And I was crying one time and she told me what happened. And I told her what happened, and she told me, it's okay. Let him get it out of his system. Because if he doesn't do it now, he's gonna do it when he's married. So just let him do it now. And that was that was what was the line that was fed to me over and over was that just how men are. And just know that, like, no matter what he does with somebody else, you're the one that's at home. You're the one he comes home to, you're the you're the one who loves. But that person is just sex or whatever. And I believed that for so long, you know. I was okay with all of that because that was just what was being told. My grandmother did it with my grandfather, you know, would always look the other way. Yeah, you know, my pa with my parents, with I mean, just everywhere I looked, even now, you know, everywhere anybody I speak to that has somebody like a only when men do it. When women do it, it's a different story. It's not okay, you know. No, seriously, it's not okay in our culture because women shouldn't do that. Of course, but it's in it's in the men's lineage to do that, right? So someone accepts it. And that just fucking blows my mind, Rach. Oh, that's just blows my mind. I'm like, that is sudden so much bullshit. You know, so much bullshit. And I'm just like, you know, it like so many, so many blindfolds have come off. Yeah. I think that so many people are just, yeah, I think so many people just think I'm going crazy. Yeah. They think I'm like, I'm losing it. They think I'm something's wrong with me, you know. I need Jesus. You know, I can't tell you like I'm serious. Like my dad that day that he came to talk to me, he was like, I already told you so many times, you need to find a church, you know, you need to come to church with me. Like, you need to have a relationship with God and you need to do this and you need to do that. And I was like, like, and and I'm gonna live with my dad for a couple months, you know. So I'm kind of intimidated by that because I do not want to be like any chance I run into him, I don't want him lecturing me. I don't want him telling me how I'm doing things wrong. I don't want him telling me that I need to go to church with him. I don't want him telling me that I shouldn't be going out or that I shouldn't be dating someone or that I shouldn't be going with my cousin here, or I shouldn't be going, I shouldn't make a friend, or all these things that I that he's already vocalized to me. I just want to be free. So I'm gonna make all my efforts to save every single penny so that I can get my own place. And even though it's gonna be fucking lonely because now I'm gonna be by myself. My son's not even gonna be with me, probably, but it will definitely give me time to process things and heal on my own. And I will get to know what it's like to really just be free. Just be free.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

What an adventure. And it's gonna be a lot, Gab, right? It is, it's a lot, and you're experiencing that. And but you've it's kind of funny that you've had to get strong, right, amongst this, because it's gonna take strength to do it. And like you said, I thought it was so profound. You're like, you know, I didn't have the guts to leave, right? That's a that's a truth, right? And that's a hard one to face in yourself, I think, a lot of the time. Um so I give you so much credit to like be able to face that truth, right? And be like, well, now I am strong enough for that. And I'm choosing this even though it's scary, and even though I'm gonna be by myself, even though I have to live with my dad, right? I'm willing to do all of that for this future vision of myself that I want to be and I want to hold and who I wanna be and how I want to show up for my kids, and then have that be the influence of what they see, right? That I was strong enough to make these decisions, regardless of all the stories that were being told. And I think, Gab, you need a little distance. You know, I think there needs to be some Yeah, I feel that.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Like I feel dazed when I come home. I just feel like I'm suffocating, you know. I'll sit in my car for 30 minutes, 40 minutes, you know, before going inside my phone, you before going inside. And then I always take like a deep breath before I go in, like just mentally prepare myself. So, you know, I definitely I'm as bad as it sounds to everybody listening, I'm counting down the days, you know, to drive over there and begin and close this chapter of my life, you know, for reals. Like, and I know it's gonna be really hard. I know I'm probably gonna cry the entire time I'm driving. Of course, of course, you know, but I'm also like very excited about it. And I just know that that something, something's on that other side, Gab.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

I'm so excited because I feel like all of these opportunities are just gonna like blossom for you. And your family, you're always gonna be there for your family. You're always you love them. They're you and they love you, but it's a tough chapter. And I a you're and I don't even get to bring my dog with me.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Why? Because my dad doesn't want him there. So I don't even get to bring my dog. I mean, at least not until I get my plate, you know.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Well, yeah, that's awful, and I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Yeah, I know. I'm just like I know. But maybe I'm like, okay, you never maybe this is just what I need, you know, is just to fully like not maybe I just need to be alone to not find other things to disassociate myself with, you know, to just really sit with what is happening and process it the way it needs to be processed, you know.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

I know that's so hard, Gam.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

I know. It is very, very hard. But I've done hard before, so here we go.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Here we go. Giddy up, universe. Giddy the fuck up. But you know, here we go. And hopefully your pup can come with you once you get your own place.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

And yeah, I'm gonna come back and get him.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

I am a whole way of looking at it though, Gab, right? And like again, we're gonna have like this whole archive of like your journey on the podcast of like this is where Gab was and this is where we're at now.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Like, we're gonna be able to get it. Yeah, I'm super excited to like look back in a year, you know. And be and you'd be like, Gabby, do you remember? You know? And I'm just like, I honestly like dream of like what my life is gonna look like in a year, you know, where I'm gonna be, who I'm gonna be, who are the people that I'm gonna, who's gonna be in my circle, you know, because I'm leaving with nobody, you know. So I'm I wanna know, I wanna see who who's who wants who's gonna be in my circle in a year from now. Yeah. And see what comes of all of this for sure.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Okay, y'all. I'm interrupting this episode for something really exciting because I'm officially opening the applications for the abundance activation retreat in Greece. And honestly, this is gonna be such a fucking vibe. I'm so excited. I'm so excited about the women who are already joining. Uh, so if you are a soul who has been craving expansion, softness, adventure, sisterhood, healing, abundance, and a deeper connection to your feminine energy, this is your sign to join the vibe tribe in Greece. This is a seven-day yoga, Pilates, feminine embodiment retreat through the Greek islands for the woman who's tired of holding her entire life together through stress, pressure, overthinking, and survival mode, and is ready to step into a completely different energy. Because abundance isn't something you hustle for, it's something you open yourself up to receive. Uh, we'll move our bodies overlooking the sea, regulate our nervous system, dance under the stars, and have bougie boat days, deep conversations, incredible freaking Greek food, beach clubs, sunsets, healing, laughter, and the kind of experiences that generally change you forever. Because sometimes you don't need another tool, technique, or strategy. You need a new environment, you need a moment to pause, a new frequency, a new energy to help remind you of who you really are. After my first time in Greece, everything really shifted for me, not just externally, but internally. I trusted myself more, I trusted the universe more, I stopped forcing life so hard. I felt supported, guided, and deeply connected to creation, possibility, and magic. And that's exactly the energy, the vibe of this retreat. So you've been waiting for a sign to stop playing small, to start going after what you truly want, to start saying yes to your next big level, then this is it. You can apply or reach out to me via Instagram for more information. I seriously cannot wait for this experience and to experience this magic with you.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

And I guess, you know, this is like a testament to like I heard Danny Morel say, like how we were talking about this before we started attachments, right? Like he's talked about how like we should not have attachments to anyone, anything, not even our children, right? To see ourselves as guides in their lives, but really like learn to detach ourselves from us needing to control them or or or like do everything for them or have them do things our way or whatever, you know. And this is really what that is, you know, is learning to not have those attachments to anything, not to any place, not to anything, not to any person, any circumstances, you know, to just really live with no expectations.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Yeah. Well, and that it allows them to create that sense of autonomy, like you said, which I think is really important, and their own sense of what is right and wrong for me. And dealing, like you said, it's a Valeria, like you're gonna have the consequences of that, right? And I think, Gab, right now, that is a good lesson for them to learn, right? And because you're gonna learn it at some point, right? That there are gonna be consequences for the two choices that you make. But that doesn't mean that you're those are good lessons to learn, right? Like I think we think of like making mistakes or failure as a bad thing, but failure is a part of success, but you're gonna fail. Like you're gonna fail a lot and you're gonna fail and you're gonna fall. And I think we make it mean too much, right? We make it mean too much when in reality you're exactly where you're meant to be, and it's a part of the process. And I think we have to normalize that a little bit, not make it mean so fucking much, not make it so uh the end of the world and just keep on keeping on, right? It's failure is a part of success. It is, it's a part of life. You're gonna fail, you're gonna fuck up, you're gonna mess up. It's a it's the lessons that we need to learn in order to get where we're meant to go and go through the growth. And that's not easy in the midst of it. But I think we need to learn how to support each other, I think, better through through failure.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Yeah, I think so too. And I think it's important to like let people feel what they need to feel, right? Rather than I feel like sometimes we try to be like, come here, it's okay, it's okay, stop crying, you know, that it's okay. And I think now I think it's it's there's value in you feeling what you feel. Like I I go through my days really, especially right now. I'm trying to have I'm gonna, you know, just pack up, get rid of stuff, like stuff you know, there's a lot going on in the midst of me also working, and and I think that's why I'm so overwhelmed too, right? Is I don't really have the time to sit and process everything. Right. You know, so I have I have my my daily stuff too, and so I don't have moment I give myself moment like on Tuesday or Wednesday. I think it was Tuesday, my dad or Sunday, my dad had came Monday. I felt like fit. I was just like drained emotionally, mentally. I didn't get much sleep. I was tossing and turning a lot, just my mind was racing. I even threw up that morning and I was at work and I I was working and I was like, then I was putting stuff away and I forgot I saw something that reminded me of a memory of my kids, you know, us doing something and I just broke down and I started to cry in the kitchen, you know. And I cried for like a good 20 minutes, you know, and I just felt everything, you know, and felt like I just got like a a flood of memories, you know, of them being young and just happier times, you know, or not happier times, but easier times, you know. Yeah. And then I thought, okay, that's enough. I need to keep going. And and then a couple days later again, you know, like I was driving home and I just started crying, you know. And I mean, I I think that it's important for me to give myself those moments, you know, and and I'm sure I'm gonna have many more. Yeah. Like I said, when I'm alone, there is value in that. There really is value in that, you know, to allow ourselves to just feel and and be in those hard moments and hold those moments close to us, right? Give them love also because they do they do need that, right? Instead of us being scared of that or pushing them away, there's value in in in all of that. There is, there is, again, like I said, value in us realizing like, are we being buried or are we being planted, right? Because it feels the same right now, right? But to know that, like, if I stay in my life right now, nothing's gonna change. Nothing changes if nothing changes, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

So if nothing's gonna change, but if I go out and take this leap, there's hope that something's gonna change. It has to. It has to, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:35

Right?

SPEAKER_00 37:35

Like everything's gonna change.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

You're changing your environment. You're you're changing your environment for the first time in whatever, like leaving. Yes. Yeah, 46 years. So just doing that, Gabs, it's gonna fucking change. Things are gonna change. You're gonna be by yourself, you're starting a new adventure, you're starting a new job, right? The whole universe has to give you things things differently because you're doing and being different. It's that's it's absolutely gonna change 100%. And that's exciting. But that again, you're absolutely right that like there's no time to process everything right now. So the pro the processing is gonna continue when you're there and by yourself, right? But, you know, it's like you said, it's beautiful to allow those moments to happen, right? To grieve the past, to be excited for the future, all of those things we get to hold at once. That's a lot. And I think it's, you know, you're in a good place, Gabby. I think, and in in a way that you're not gonna get it. Sometimes I think we can get lost in the emotion, right? We can get lost in the down, we can get lost in things being hard. But I think you're in a good, strong place, Gab, where you can handle this. And again, I think all of this work has come to this moment, Gab, where you're in a place where like you're not choosing for anyone else, right? You're doing what that what you think is best. You're staying strong with that, you're trusting yourself, you're doing this even though it's hard. And it you are gonna process once you get there. But also you're allowing for the universe to kind of meet you and give you and like start a whole new fucking book. Like, not just a new chapter. We're starting a whole new book. And your family is also starting a new book. And I think that's part of it, right? Is that this is a whole new book for everybody, and you're the mom and you hold the house, the you know, the foundation for your family. You're starting a new book, and obviously that's gonna trickle down to everybody. But like you said, your son's 18. So usually kids at 18 are going off to college. That's a whole new book, right? That's a whole new book for people. You know, your older son living at home, he he's gonna he should be starting a new book, right? We, my family too. I lived at home after for after college for a little while. You know, I think that's normal. But also there comes a time where we can all spread our wings. And that's a good thing. It's uncomfortable, but we have to know that we can go out into the world and succeed. And sometimes there are points in my life where I needed help and support. And I'm lucky that my family and my husband did help and support me. And you would absolutely do that for your children. But at the same time, it's also we all have to kind of find our footing and go through our own journey. And you're just the you're the catalyst right now for all of the family. And again, you're being the, you're like taking away the veil, right? You're relieving the mask of all of these issues that have been bubbling and bubbling and bubbling and bubbling. And now everyone has to come face to face with years of trauma, of issues, of I'm breaking the chains. Correct. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

You've been doing it breaking the chains, and and I get that like that might not sit well with everybody because again, like you said, everybody's in this comfort zone, right? So it's shaping shit up, right? And I do think that looking back, like I will I decided to become a life coach. I decided to do yes supply, I decided to do all of these things to help others, not realizing that it has all served a purpose for me, right? It has helped me while helping others. I've also helped myself in growing as a person, but also getting stronger and learning all these tools, right? That have now helped me be more resilient and stronger in my ground. Yeah. And in all of this and be strong enough to walk away this time, you know, be it has really like, it's almost like it's all like I said last time, like it's a puzzle that's been forming, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:35

And now all the little pieces are kind of coming into play, right? Yeah. Gab because if you had this opportunity in San Diego prior, you might not have actually taken up on it. You and you might call and say, actually, I can't take this job, right? Where now in this place is it actually divinely, uh divinely constructed or orchestrated that now you get this opportunity when you're the version of yourself who can actually take it and can actually hold it.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

And actually, like the way I see it is like if my son would have never decided that he wanted to go to college over there, I would have never made the decision to go with him over there. And even though he's not coming, I feel like that's the little push I needed to open up to make that decision, to like be able to actually visualize and manifest the that life over there because without that, I wouldn't have done it. Right. And I just want to say to like all the women out there, there is a message that we got, I think, on TikTok of a woman talking about how us sharing our story really has helped her, you know, believe in herself and support herself. And that just really like that's like that's the reason I do this. That's the reason you do this, that's the reason we are life coaches, right? That's the reason we do this work, is because there is so many women out there that feel trapped, feel like they're a prisoner in their own home. And just know that it really does take you, like you said, you being the catalyst to be able to quantum lead, to be able to take that leap. And, you know, being stuck in the same cycle is only gonna keep you stuck, right? And in worrying about, worrying about what others are gonna say, what others think you should do, what your family thinks you should do, how you should live your life. It's not your responsibility. That's you know, that's not what they think about you is not your responsibility. You need to do what you need to be for you, and worrying about it is a misuse of your imagination. Okay. Worrying doesn't bring nothing good to me. Worrying is of the mind, right? Worrying causes anxiety. And I'm telling you guys this firsthand because that's what it's done to me. Worrying about my dad's perception of me, you know, my my mom, my my family has only caused me to stay stuck in the life that I didn't want to live. So releasing the worry and knowing that I care, I do care about what they think because caring is from the heart, right? Caring is for the car. Caring is the feminine, is us being in our divine feminine that comes from the heart and learning to care about others and say, I understand that you're worried. I understand that you're scared. I understand that you want the best for me. I love you for that. Thank you. I know what's best for me. And really like tap into you and what is gonna make you happy. And learning to walk away from a marriage after so many years was more than just walking away. It was less about walking away from the marriage and more, more like walking away from my family, right? From my entire family. You're sending me. Yeah, like it felt like me turning my back on my kids, right? And on the belief systems, the programming, the morals, the ethics, the values that my parents instilled in me. That's what it was, right? And it really took a lot of reprogramming, a lot of unlearning to relearn that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because that's the way they choose to live their life. That's their programming, that's their belief system, not mine, right? And I can recreate myself. I can create my new belief systems. And I have autonomy over my body, and I I have the freedom to be able to choose how I want to live my life. And my kids are grown up now, so I have nothing stopping me. And if I don't do this now, then when the fuck am I gonna go to it? Yeah. Am I gonna wait until I'm 75 years old? No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

No, I'm not wasting my life. But I think that too, this is profound to like give women a permission slip in this way, right? And I think so much props because it's true. I think a lot of women stay because they think they should for the family, for their kids, because the husband makes the money, because the pressure from the family, like a million things, right? But I also think it's important to say that you've been on this journey for years. Like it's been years to get to this point where you feel strong enough to be like, I'm this is what I'm doing. Like finally eight, set eight, seven years. I this is what I'm doing, and I am strong in that, and no one's going to persuade me otherwise. Eight years to get from where you were to where you are now, and we still have got where we want to go. So I think too that this isn't for some people, everyone's journey is different. Right. There's something that we need to, I want to get that very clear. There might be women who can make that decision and go. And there might be women who might need 10 years to make that decision. But who gives a shit? Okay. Meaning that you have to own that it's where you are and do the work that you know you need to do to start to get that vision and that bowl fucking, that ball fucking rolling. And at some point, you have to decide that you, like you said, nothing's gonna change unless something changes. And if the first step that you can do to make a change is to go to a yoga class by yourself, or go get a cup of coffee by yourself, or go talk to a therapist, or what there's so many modalities right now, but take one step because you're in a place right now, Gabby, that you're about to transform. I feel like I've been in that place and I probably will get into that place again. That those moments will come, but I think those moments are built upon you taking steps, right? Yeah, and holding the vision and holding the hope and holding the love for yourself and doing the things and investing in yourself and trusting yourself. Those things take time, but they will compound over time. Meaning, once we start, you know, it might be three months until we see a big aha moment, but then maybe it's another three months, but then maybe we quantum leap, you know, and then we have a big spurt. It takes time. Again, and try not to compare your journey to others, but I hope that this will be an inspiration for people to know that if it's meant to you, it will keep calling. I do believe that, but I also think that we have to take aligned action, right? To make those dreams a reality. But we also do get to play with the universe where as you take steps and trust yourself and choose yourself, things will also be brought to you, knowing that you're going into a soul alignment. Doesn't mean that it's not risky, right? Where we this whole episode and last two episodes are about taking leaps of faith, but it's also that you will be met in that faith.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

And you have to create this foundation and the strength within to keep moving and to keep doing it, even when it you don't have all the answers. You have to have devotion to your journey and you have to build that foundation to your devotion and your faith. Devotion to yourself in yourself.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

Devotion to yourself and know that, like, for example, for me, I can't tell you how many times family members, cousins, friends told me to leave, you know, to leave him so many times, like even 10, 15 years ago. And I kept saying, Well, I feel bad, I feel bad, you know, especially after my whole incarceration thing. Like it was really like, sorry, instilled in me that instilled in me that like he stuck around while I was gone and took care of his kids. Therefore, that made him a good man. And that's somebody that I needed to keep around. So I needed to not leave him because of that. And that was held over my head for so long by him and by others, you know, but I never left. I just knew, like, for me, the way I work is like I won't act on something until I'm a thousand percent sure that's what I want to do. Right. I'm very simple. This is why, this is why, like, me making this move. Like, I remember when my dad was starting to tell me that on Sunday, like, like, I think you should stay here and do this. And I stopped him and I said, listen to me. You can say what you're gonna say, whether he goes to school out there, whether she comes with me, whether whatever. Oh, because he was telling me that, like, I told him, okay, I'm I will go back to school for something for business, for he really wants me to be a nurse. I do not want to be a nurse, you know, or like a tech, like a radiologist technician. I said, Okay, well, I'll give it, I'll look into that, you know? And he's like, Yeah, but you're not gonna be able to do it over there. You're not, because you're not gonna have the time to do it over there. You're not gonna have, you're gonna be working, you're not, you're not gonna be able to do both things. And I said, How dare you? How dare you not believe in me? You're my dad. Like, do you know how much it hurts me for you to sit here and tell me that I can't do something? I said, Do you know how many people do that? Do you know how many people work full-time and go to go to university? What makes you think I can't do that? Especially if I don't have the kids with me. I said, I'm gonna show you that I can do it. I'm gonna show you that I'm gonna. Yeah. I said, I'm gonna show you that I can do it. He's like, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying I believe in you. I'm saying that it's gonna be hard. I said, I know. I said, but have I not proven to you that I can do fucking hard? Hard things. Haven't I not proven to you? I said, let me tell you something. You guys stay-oh, because their dad was sitting there saying scared for either. She's not gonna be, she's she's not gonna be able to do it. She's not gonna be able to get an apartment. She's not gonna be able to get a job because of her record. She's never gonna be able to be on her own because of her record. She's always gonna need somebody to cosine for her, always somebody to do something for her. And my dad told him, he's like, Stop saying that. He's like, stop telling her that. I said, it doesn't matter what he said, it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what anybody says. Let me tell you something. I said, none of you guys have walked in my shoes. None of you guys. You guys can imagine what it feels like. You guys have seen me do it, but none of you have actually walked in my shoes and they and felt the rejection I have felt from all of you at some point. Okay? I said, and you sitting here telling me this, I said, that is rejection. That is you are telling me that I am not capable, I am not good enough to do this for whatever belief you have because you're scared for me or whatever. You know, I said, I understand it, but I can do it, can do it. I said, and fuck yeah, yeah, I said, and stop telling me what I'm what I need to do and what I don't need to do. I said, because there is nothing you can tell me right now that is gonna make me change my decision. I'm doing this, and I said it in Spanish. Say it in Spanish though. I said, Yo voy a hacer esto, le pese a quien le pese. Basically saying, I'm doing what I'm doing, whether you like it or you don't like it, or you know, whatever it is, I'm doing this. This is what it's like to show up for me, and this is what I'm doing. I said, And you can do it, you know, you guys, and I said, My kids are there, and I said, You think I'm abandoning my kids? No, I said I am showing them what it's like to choose you, to do you, to follow your dreams, to stick to your guns, to do fucking hard. I'm showing them that. They might not see that right now. I said, but when the in 10 years, when they see me in a different light, when they see me happy with somebody else, somebody else that makes me feel emotionally safe, somebody that supports me, that believes in me. When they see me having a career, living a life traveling, they're gonna understand why it's you, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

They're gonna remember this fucking moment.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

Yeah. And I told him, and I said, You guys remember this. Gab! Fuck yeah, Gab. I was so pissed. Like, like this is no, you're fire. You have a fire in you. Yeah. Well, when my dad was telling me that, I'm just like, this is exactly what I've been up my entire life. Yeah. Always telling me how I can't do this and how I can't do that, and how I can't. And that is the reason I didn't do so much.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

And I'm done. This is not my story anymore.

SPEAKER_00 53:51

I am not taking on that story. That's not that's why I know, Rach. That's why I know that this decision, even though, like I said, everything feels like it's wrong. Everybody's telling me it's wrong, and everything around me is like, no, no, no, no, no, don't do it. There's just no doubt in my mind that I'm that I need to do this. No doubt in my mind. Like, as hard as it is, I'm just like, I'm sorry. This is sorry.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Good for you, Gab, though. That's such a I feel like Abby, and you you correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like after, because I'm very similar, where like I don't do something unless I'm a thousand percent almost. But then I think sometimes you almost create your own anxiety when you're like, I don't feel a thousand percent. So should I do this? Should I not? So when to get to a place where you're I you're convicted, you're devoted in this decision, it's actually like like it feels so fucking good because like you know what it's like to be in decision for so long. So when you finally get to the point like, no, I meant to do this, I'm going to do this. It's just it feels fucking incredible on top of though all the other shit that's happening. But it's like, no, like I there, there's no swaying me here. I know. I know. And I just want to reflect to you to remember what that feels like because you're going like you, like similar to you saying to your family, like, remember this moment. I want you to remember this moment for yourself, right? Of like, this is what it feels like to be convicted, to know something, to trust myself, to honor all the work that I've done to fucking get here. And I want you to revel in that and how strong you've gotten and how resilient you have become, right? You can do it. You are capable. And to say that to your family and your father who you want that validation from, but you're giving it to yourself, regardless of what he says, right? And understanding that it's not because he doesn't believe that you can't. It's that his, it's his worry and his fear for you. But in the moment, I think sometimes when you're not in a healthy state, you take on those projections of others as that being the truth when it's actually not. So to be in a place where you're like, that's not my truth. I'm not holding that and reject it, right? And hold the space of this is my choice and I'm following through regardless of whatever. There's only gonna be fucking butterflies and magic and on the other side. Doesn't mean it's not gonna be hard, but like there's it, it's you're creating a whole new book, and I'm really excited for you. And I'm really proud to be on the journey with you and getting to watch you do it and hold space for you while you do it. And I'm really honored and uh I'm really excited for you. And uh I just think it's fucking incredible and fucking amazing and inspirational and empowering, I hope, to anyone who's listening.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

Thanks, Rach. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy, right? It's crazy that like we started this podcast six months ago. Six months ago, just trying to be show up here and be authentic and talk about all our things, and it's kind of crazy that it's like now this journey is being documented through the podcast. You know, that's not what my vision, that's not like I never envisioned that happening that way. Yeah. But it is kind of cool, you know, to be like I said, to be able to come back in a year and and look back on it and be like, whoa, like how much have we changed? How much has our life changed, right? Yeah. And just to see where, like I said, where my life is. It can be my life has changed so much from last year to this year. I'm in a point where I never thought I would be. Like I've like literally waited for this moment to come when I could get up and move away and walk away and start a new life. Yeah. So it's crazy. So it's just like the sky's the limit, right? Now I'm not gonna have anything holding me back. And uh it's just it's game time, you know? It is game time.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

It's go time, baby. Um and so, but you leave soon, right? Like you're you have to be in San Diego in July, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:57

I leave July 1st. I leave July 1st and I work for uh four days. I work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Monday. And then the family that I'm gonna be uh the family assistant for is leaving on vacation for three weeks for the rest of July. And they come back August 1st, and then I think it's August 3rd that I start.

SPEAKER_02 58:20

Like officially, you need to be there and be like moved by August 3rd. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:25

So it's it's gonna be a drive. Like I I'm gonna commute because a lot of like where my dad lives, it's it's kind of like the valley. Okay. You know, it's like in the like close to the desert, it's like a desert area, so there's not too much there. So you do have to like, in order to get to like LA or San Diego or whatever, you have to drive about an hour, 45 minutes an hour, depending on traffic. But the good thing is my daughter lives in LA. So there will be one or two days that I can actually stay with her so that I don't have to commute back and forth. And if I'm by myself, it doesn't matter. You know, I could just, she had the extra bed, so I'd just sleep in her bed in the other bed and yeah, you know, get up and go to work the next day and then not have to commute so much.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

And the other thing too is like amongst this, just to reflect this back to you, and then I actually have to run gabs, is maybe not having the dog is like not a responsibility while you are kind of like a wanderer, right? Like, and figuring out your new life, right? And figuring out your new how where you're gonna be grounded and where you're gonna, you know. So it might, it's hard in this moment, but maybe there's a blessing in it. And I know that you have the mindset of it.

SPEAKER_00 59:35

Oh, there is, yeah. And I feel like I'm I'm I feel like, listen, I feel like this is the ultimate test, right? Like everything is being taken from me. Everything that is like that safety holds me together and it feels me, makes me feel like home is being taken from me. And I feel like that's the ultimate test. Like, are you still gonna choose you? Right? Are you still gonna choose you?

SPEAKER_02 59:56

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Gosh, the the next few months on the podcast are gonna be fun, right? Because you're transitioning to moving to a new place. I'm gonna be in Greece for a few weeks and probably Europe for a few, maybe months. Um, I'm hoping for at least a month or two. So there's gonna be a lot of, I feel like, magic that unfolds in the next few months on this fucking podcast because we're gonna be in really, really amazing energy places. Yeah, I'm excited too. So thanks for coming on and sharing everything, Gab. I know that's not easy, and I commend you for that, and I love you, and I'm here for you. And uh keep me posted.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

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